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Good summary! I well remember that time – I was shortly to have an operation at what turned out to be the peak of the first wave.

I remember too being gobsmacked by the Mar 13 Channel 4 programme with Matt Frei, J Edmunds & T Pueyo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C98FmoZVbjs

[Commentary about it here: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/ihuman/blog/what-does-covid-19-mean-expertise-case-tomas-pueyo ]

11:38 Matt Frei: Edmunds … should we be declaring a national emergency here?

Edmunds: No. For what gain? What gain would we get from that: We get people up into a panic? We want people to come with us in a stepwise way.

… “The only way to stop this epidemic is indeed to achieve herd immunity”

23:15 Edmunds “It’s true if you just look crudely at the numbers, that the numbers are doubling about every two and a half days, but that’s because they are doing more contact tracing. The actual underlying rate of doubling is more like about every five days.”

Even my wife, with no science but a strong intuitive understanding was appalled by Edmunds’ (official) position and you can see she wasn’t alone by the comments below the clip where most were on Pueyo’s side.

I had the advantage of some professional experience of dealing with modellers, who I believe perform a vital role but who are frequently insufferably adamant and narrow in their outlook (‘the map is not the territory’).

When Whitty was an adviser for DFID I attended his talk on climate change in E Africa at UCL– he insisted that it would be getting wetter (because that’s what the models said). I questioned him on it and still remember his disdainful reply. But he got it wrong there too - it got drier and more chaotic in subsequent years; the models were wrong.

The question is, why were so many who had the ear of government so bad, when i-Sage was so good?

Above all perhaps, modellers should NEVER take control of the debate when understanding of a new virus is so poor. Practical field specialists (e.g. for Ebola) should have been more prominent in decision-making. What happened to the Precautionary Principle?

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Louise's avatar

Thank you, Kit. Locking down two weeks earlier would have saved many like me from getting Covid and subsequent Long Covid. We have now been ill for five years, with no treatment available.

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